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Grrr, recent actions of KHJ didn't show that he kept his promise as a "married" man to Hwangbo. - "http://moleqobsession.blogspot.com/2010/11/video-datv-kim-hyun-joong-special.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+MoleqObsession3+(MoLeQ+ObSeSSioN+%26lt;3)" --> watch it to see he caressed JSM's cheek off-record. - PK special edition is like soft-porn to me with too much kissing, touching. Nobody can deny that PK's plot is total failure. This special edition is like 'add-on" to save the show's low rating. It does nothing to improve the original plot. In short, it's totally unnecessary. I felt sorry for HJ if he was forced to do this by his agency. No artist, who is serious about doing ART, will do this kinda show. I watched PK from beginning till end because it's funny and entertaining. But these follow-up clips are just: Bad taste!!! I can't bring myself to watch pass ep2. All in all, feel like KHJ is done with his old ship and be ready for new ones... :( Sorry people, I think I cannot continue supporting Joongbo anymore because I feel like a fool, LIKE A FOOL! (after being hyperly-happy over their little secrets for the past 2 years) Unless, Unless... there are new trust-worthy spazz to prove me wrong. I pray hard for it, because I love Joongbo so much...
I am sorry, but i didn't see anything that would make you this mad. there is probably some dirt on her cheek that he just want to clean it off. His action after that seems like a brother/sister relationship. Don't get so mad over this little action. He has not publicly said he likes her or have feelings for her right? but he did publicly said he likes his buin and may have feelings for her so unless he came out publicly said he dated other pp or married than i don't think anything is big deal. seems like PK really rocks our ship hard lately. everyday has new thing to provoke JB land. seems like joongbo land will not stable until PK finish playing in other asia contries. sigh
I agree with you about PK. Also, Korean people do not buy or watch too much erotic scences on TV because those scences show bad influence to the Korean society especially teenagers. Korea has abundant traditional culture and history compared to PK, which shows only erotic moments with the 3rd level of plot. Image of KHJ's kissing and bed scences to the girl does not look at all comparied to his previous fresh and inocent images on SS501 activities & WGM. Most of the viewers on the Internet are teenagers who love KHJ. The teenage fans only see his erotic images from PK; thus, what do they get or what do they think? When I tries to read his news, I only see pictures of his kissing or bed scences on the Internet. Do you think who put them on the Internet? I have children and a nephew, but I defintely do not allow them to watch PK because I do not want them influenced by PK's only erotic scences. I do not want them to involve with kiss & further erotic moments when they still young. If they see it & try the same way like PK, their lives will be destory. As adults, we need to protect our teenagers who still need protection from semi-porns. Thus, I love WGM, which has showed pure and real love. The WGM shows what a real life is about and how to show & give pure love to others. That is why it's still very popular in Korea. Inspiration stories go forever; however, showing only an erotic drama does not go longer peroid time because people do not want to see & feel bad taste all the time. Thanks.
anon #3, are you in Korea? if you are, i wonder if Korea joongbo still exist? i read many joongbo webs but haven't seen k-joongboers. i wonder how the situation of joongbo is like in its native country. thanks
Hi, I'm Anon#1. Thanks for sharing your views on this. I love this place more than Soompi because it feels cozier here with lesser but "nicer" people :D. I am actually not saying that HJ may like JSM. It's not abt JSM or PK in particular here. I'm just saying, from looking at HJ's actions in all behind the scene clips, his actions are not reflective of an 'attached" man with commitment. This is my personal point of view because I do believe loyal people CAN control their feelings and behaviors. That's exactly what Hwangbo did in WGM. She used her head to control her emotions and drew the lines with HJ. I only hope that HJ actually did all those things to promote this drama (proving that they have off-screen chemistry) because he knew all those scenes will be aired. He is smart and certainly knows how to manipulate the media. So my only hope is that he did it with a purpose for his career. Or else... I'm really sad. And also, I'm dying for more recent Joongbo spazzs...
lighten up, ladies! what was shown on PK regular show and YT webisodes were not "erotic" as you call them! maybe they did have a lot of kissing scenes, as obviously in the title, but no way would these even be described as erotic! if you even saw the Taiwan version of ISWAK and its sequel, with such torrid kissing between Joe and Ariel, then maybeou could call it not suitable for children! compared with those, PK was super super mild in the kissing department!
sometimes i really don't know who are real joongboers from not...forgive me, but i can't help but think that there are comments who claim they are joongboers but they just want to rock this ship and see if others will sway too and jump off the ship. Or they just say what they feel and wants to find comfort to others who cannot be swayed by negativity.
As far as I know, a true joongboer will still believe, will not be swayed by negativity.
Sorry if my post may offend others, but i am really curious right now of who are the real joongboers and who are the fake ones.
I will still believe and from what I saw in PK, may it be BTS or the actual scenes itself, there is nothing special about it. I support shillang in everything he does and will still support PK but my heart will also believe in the genuineness of what I saw between HB and HJ.
Hi anon above, I'm anon#1. Yes I think I am the fake joongbo. In a sense that I do support joongbo very very much and really really want them to be married in real life because I also believe in what I saw in WGM that they are really compatible. I also believe and enjoy those spazzs in the past two years. But if it is confirmed they are not together anymore then there's no Joongbo for me, there's only HJ and HB individually. So if it doesn't fit into the Joongbo family motto (support Joongbo no matter whether they are together or not) then I apologize for spreading the negativity. You're right, negativity should not be spread. I'll continue to pray for them in silence.
i watched PK religiously for I support shillang in his projects. Although PK is not my cup of tea, I watched it till the end. As far as I know in the "cheek" thing, it is in the script and it was seen in the actual episode, if i'm not mistaken it's in ep 3. So i don't think there is a big fuzz over there as they are just practicing the scenes.
We are all speculators and spectators here in the JB world...so whether they are together or not, there will always be JOONGBO. They made us feel love and perceive life positively so they will be forever in our hearts.
Anon #1- its ok to express ur thinking as long as no bashing anyone then it's OK. if u are down, come to ask the senior joongboers to cheer you up. that's what a team is for right. no need to say sorry. there is ups and downs moments of this ship. this ship is truly hard to sail but we still survive so hang in there. Lots of joongboers still believe and support them together and individually. Everyone understand that if this ship is landed at least we all met wonderful pp in our fandom and at least witness a beautiful and sincere love bt HJ and HB in that 8 months. I don't think anyone will regret for joining this ship because in reality there is no promise from either one of them. Most of us are mature, so with any ending, this fandom brings lots of happiness to many pp in the past years. think positive, you will be more happy
Pity HJ..because of that very 'Innocent face' an idol who is an icon of fine behaviour and high morality,when he was 'acting' as 'a character'..instead of 'appreciate it' people are shocked actually and dare not see or watch it, just like when we see a very clean white cloth fell on a dirty mud..just like that.He has to choose a better character for the betterment of the young generation!!Best of luck to HJ.
@Anon #1 : Good god! From your descriptions/freaking out, I thought HJ was like sticking his tongue down JM's throat or something. Turns out it's just him touching her cheek after having to pinch it hard. I think that's a normal response from anyone really, it's like " Oops sorry about that hard pinch."
Also I find the comments against PK and its supposed erotic content really unsavory. I didn't watch PK at all except for a few clips including those kissing moments which seem to freak you and the other anon out a lot. The two characters are in love, in a relationship and only do things that come within that territory. Why is an act of affection such as kissing so taboo? Furthermore, in the YT edition, the two of them are married! Please tell me Koreans actually kiss their significant others. Or else that is just one sad country! =/
Also the argument that Double S and thus HJ was all pure and innocent unlike the scandalous PK (and I'm using "scandalous" as sarcasm here) is pure b.s!
If you remember the solo video for Double S, the story line for that include kidnapping, gun, murders, lots of blood (I'm talking about you, gratuitous shower scene!), so how can you really say that Double S was that pure? And really now, remember all that shirt ripping HJ did during his concert, how the heck would that count as "innocent"?
If you don't care for PK, don't watch it. But I think it's completely silly and give bad name to JB-ers for you to go around bashing its content with such ridiculous reasons.
Ugh, I can't believe this is the second time I have to defend PK and I didn't even watch the darn thing =/
Hello Sshangchudream, I'm anon#1, different from the one just above u so I didn't make my assessment regarding PK based on my image of HJ as an "innocent man". Haha, to me he is anything but innocent. And I love him exposing his "impurity side" to Hwangbo, or else we wouldn't have anything to talk abt after two years :P. My thoughts about PK special edition as bad soft porn still stand. And yes I did follow your advise to not to watch it (I didn't watch it anymore after ep2). For this "But I think it's completely silly and give bad name to JB-ers for you to go around bashing its content with such ridiculous reasons" <-- I salute you!
@anon1, i am sorry if you are kinda offended on my post. I just can't identify now the joongboers from the fake ones. I mean, the fake ones who are really not in this ship and pretend that they are in just to cause commotion in our world and to those joongboers who posts rants and just wants to be cheered or caressed by the other joongboers.
There are some who lurk here and want to mess up our haven.
I do apologize if my previous post kinda hurt you a bit...i really didn't mean to hurt a fellow joongboer's feeling.
At first, I want to say thank you to SH that posted HJ pics above.. He is so cute^^
Second, I want to say that I agree with Ssangchudream opinion.. I'm a die-hard JBers but I also love HJ and HB as a person and support their activities.. I love them because I love their love and their interaction in WGM (from my POV, yes I think they love each other at that time) and then I became loving their personality too..
I watched PK drama also PK special in YT as my support to HJ.. coz buin also support him when he want to do d BOF drama.. I think of it as a gahun for them.. At first, I also feel sad or a bit down when I know there will be a lot of kiss scenes in the drama.. but when time goes by as I watch the drama, I feel numb & didn't feel anything again when I see HJ kiss scenes, maybe becoz I seen many perfects fancam that showing that HJ interaction when he was not in front of d camera is not so close like what ppl think. I also tried to make analyzes of KHJ PK BTS that make many JBers feel unease here http://wallerian.blogspot.com/2010/11/my-analyze-of-khj-pk-bts.html so that JBers at least could feel a bit ease after read it.. coz when u observed it well u will know that PK and that BTS is just a job for him.
For me, yes PK have so much kissing scene compared other K-drama that I ever seen, but I think it's not in erotic area yet, coz those kissing scene was taken when they BSJ and OHN already married and the kiss scene that can be categorize as a deep kiss just 2 or 3 times I guess, the other kiss is mild or taken from far..
It just my opinion, but overall.. I kinda understand the feeling of many JBers like you anon#1, that smtm feel down when see that kinda scene and feel want to give up this ship.. actually it's all up to you.. but since the first time I join this ship I know that it's like a roller coaster ride, that can make me feel up and down.. but until one of them officially married I'll keep believing^^
hi again ladies, i was the 8th poster from the top.
i just totally disagree with anon#1 that PK was "soft porn" or even "erotic".
my dear, you just have to go check out those so called "adult websites" to distinguish soft porn from the "wholesome" PK.
although PK was not much on substance and acting, on the whole i found it cute at best, mainly because of JSM's acting. loving KHJ since 2008 as a true blue joongboers, i cannot help but accept that HJ is not a really good actor at this time.
but definitely the story of PK and its presentation CANNOT BE DESCRIBED AS PORNOGRAPHIC OR EROTIC, please get that into your heads!
and as for Koreans being super conservative, maybe she has not seen such mainstream films (Untold Scandal, April Snow, etc.)where in respected A-list actors as Yonsama and the like appeared totally nude and had really hot/suggestive/simulated sex scenes!!!
Kim Hyun Joong is still wholesome, despite the kissing scenes in PK!!! its his job, for crying out loud! if he wants to make it big as an actor, he has to be able to do a whole range of various scenes!
Hello Joongboers. Let me tell you about in American drama "Sex and City." I do not watch often the drama. Even though the title is Sex, it doesn't show that many kissing & sex scences even though America is an open society for the viewers. Also, If you think the PK's kissing & bed scences are not erotic, then I want to ask you what the definition of erotic is. Don't you think seeing constantly kissing & bed scences cause erotic moods to you guys. Even though all adults feel it, how do the teens feel and act after seeing the constant erotic moments by their idol, KHJ, via youtube & on TV. What do they see & learn from their idol's kissing & bed scences? It causes further social problems such as teenage sexual activities and teen age pregnancies. Also, most teens cannot distinguish between real & acting. I work with so many teenage pregnant moms, and then they have very harsh lives because they are immature & not ready to take responsibilities of having babies. I'm sad that the PK group did not considerate at all the effect of social problems. They just want to make money w/o any ethical consideration to our Korean & international teen society. That is the reason it got lower viewers rate in Korea; on the contrary, it got high rating on youtube due to teens watching via online. I hope no more showing the erotic moments. Thanks.
Hello Anon above, hehehe sorry I started my ranting by mentioning PK. Bad move bad move!!! I was just nursing my nearly broken heart after watching BTS and a few other off-screen clips. Didn't mean to start a PK discussion. Sorry guys, my bad move in a down time!!! So I think it's okie for you and me to not watch PK (or not let your kids watch it). It's also okie for other Joongboers here watch and love it. Anyway, people have different tastes and ideas of what good shows are and there are no standards. So you and I keep our views. Other fans keep their views. But I do apologize for calling PK "soft porn". Should have kept it in my head and remember not to use "special word" in public place coz I might offend people who love the show. But yes, in mind head, it is still classified as such. And No, please, you don't have to waste time telling me otherwise :D
Are you kidding me? Please tell me you are b/c if not, I will start to think you're a troll who are deliberately being obtuse b/c you are actually comparing Sex and the City to the chasteness that is PK?
I watched the show. Almost all the seasons and I can tell you, ppl make out (with tongue I may add) in that show about every 10 mins. And they were all promiscuous ppl who has multiple one night stands. My mind is beyond being boggled that you actually are comparing PK with "Sex" and think that "Sex" is less erotic. Why is your reality of life so different from mine? =/
"What do they see & learn from their idol's kissing & bed scences?"..that when you're in love and being married to that person, you can actually kiss your wife? That it's normal to kiss the person you're in love with?
And ok Ssangchuheaven, I promise I stop spamming your place now.
O..yes please do,HJ must be laughing to see this blog now.Wa..he's getting more popular..he can have as many kisses with any one he likes..why worry people here screaming or whatever they want to say..he's a man now..big boy.MK or BTS only circulated in Korea only right?No other countries can watch it.Cool down please..
dear anon#1: i wanted to ask you to google "softcore pornography" or "soft porn" as you call it. but to save you the trouble, i just checked it out myself. wikipedia says that "softcore pornography" is characterized by nude or seminude photos or films that depict sexual activity (the definition was more detailed, but lest i offend anyone else, i won't use them here), although not as graphically as "hardcore pornography". exposure of male or female genitalia are also part of "soft porn", so i guess PK does not qualify, definitely!
I also can't tell if all people claiming to be joongboers are real joongboers or faking to sink this ship.
About playful kiss... Yes, I was one of the joongboers who was hurt/jealous because of the sexy and intimate scenes there. I mean, it's natural since my loyalty is for JOONGBO.. But all I tell myself is that it is just a DRAMA. They are actors who have to do their jobs. We are aware of the low ratings of PK right? If they dont do any "noise" for the drama, what will our shillang feel? That he is a failure? I do believe (or just call me blind) that the BTS are somewhat scripted. Of course they know that they were being filmed because if not, for sure our shillang is sleeping in one corner LOL!
I am not a MINJOONG fan but I do support them (sincerely).. But again.. My loyalty is for our JOONGBO
oh my dear joongboers. He needs his job so he needs to act his part. if it is a totally failure then we will not see HJ on drama screen anymore. Like SS501 now, i don't even know when can we see all the boys together again. Loosen up a little bit, you will feel better. but compare PK to TW, Hj is nothing compare to ARJOe, they just kiss whenever they want to and the kisses were not scripted. At least PK is scripted so he only follow the scripts. I believed if HB in a drama that required the kiss scenes, as a professional, i do believe she will do the same. If they are together, i totally believed she will not give him a hard time due to his job. Remember HJ try to make HB watch his kiss scene in BOF? she supported his drama but did she said something about she will not watch it? If buin can tolerate his job then why not us right? Let's the subject drop ladies. PP do need the bowl of rice for survival specially chances are knocking on his door. How many pp in here don't like your supervisor but has to follow their instruction just because of surviving? Same to him, in order for him to keep his job, he must act out the best so more drama can come to him. Beside personal life, he does have his professional life. We can't mixed them together. If we see him kissing other woman during his personal life then yeah, we will leave this ship. Just like the HK incident but we survived right? so this PK is really really minor.
Wow, you guys why hatin' on PK??? It's not even their own story line. It's followed by a manga... I find PK really interesting, and nice... It's really heart touching.
He he he..I can see a fisherman in a boat.He was holding his fishing rod with a bait on it...he just wanted to see what type of fish live there.Suddenly another fish snatched the bait..etc..etc.so the fisherman know the black side of the fish from another's fish mouth not from the fisherman himself..
KHJ is doing his job yet people are attacking him just because he's not meeting the 'wild fantasy coupling' idea. What's with the erotic & soft porn comment? You surely are stuck with the image of the 'kid groom' that you failed to see his development as a man, as an actor. PK is a hot topic today, keep that attitude of yours & prepared to be flock with hard-core fans.
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Grrr, recent actions of KHJ didn't show that he kept his promise as a "married" man to Hwangbo.
- "http://moleqobsession.blogspot.com/2010/11/video-datv-kim-hyun-joong-special.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+MoleqObsession3+(MoLeQ+ObSeSSioN+%26lt;3)" --> watch it to see he caressed JSM's cheek off-record.
- PK special edition is like soft-porn to me with too much kissing, touching. Nobody can deny that PK's plot is total failure. This special edition is like 'add-on" to save the show's low rating. It does nothing to improve the original plot. In short, it's totally unnecessary. I felt sorry for HJ if he was forced to do this by his agency. No artist, who is serious about doing ART, will do this kinda show. I watched PK from beginning till end because it's funny and entertaining. But these follow-up clips are just: Bad taste!!! I can't bring myself to watch pass ep2.
All in all, feel like KHJ is done with his old ship and be ready for new ones... :(
Sorry people, I think I cannot continue supporting Joongbo anymore because I feel like a fool, LIKE A FOOL! (after being hyperly-happy over their little secrets for the past 2 years)
Unless, Unless... there are new trust-worthy spazz to prove me wrong. I pray hard for it, because I love Joongbo so much...
I am sorry, but i didn't see anything that would make you this mad. there is probably some dirt on her cheek that he just want to clean it off. His action after that seems like a brother/sister relationship. Don't get so mad over this little action. He has not publicly said he likes her or have feelings for her right? but he did publicly said he likes his buin and may have feelings for her so unless he came out publicly said he dated other pp or married than i don't think anything is big deal. seems like PK really rocks our ship hard lately. everyday has new thing to provoke JB land. seems like joongbo land will not stable until PK finish playing in other asia contries. sigh
I agree with you about PK. Also, Korean people do not buy or watch too much erotic scences on TV because those scences show bad influence to the Korean society especially teenagers. Korea has abundant traditional culture and history compared to PK, which shows only erotic moments with the 3rd level of plot. Image of KHJ's kissing and bed scences to the girl does not look at all comparied to his previous fresh and inocent images on SS501 activities & WGM. Most of the viewers on the Internet are teenagers who love KHJ. The teenage fans only see his erotic images from PK; thus, what do they get or what do they think? When I tries to read his news, I only see pictures of his kissing or bed scences on the Internet. Do you think who put them on the Internet? I have children and a nephew, but I defintely do not allow them to watch PK because I do not want them influenced by PK's only erotic scences. I do not want them to involve with kiss & further erotic moments when they still young. If they see it & try the same way like PK, their lives will be destory. As adults, we need to protect our teenagers who still need protection from semi-porns. Thus, I love WGM, which has showed pure and real love. The WGM shows what a real life is about and how to show & give pure love to others. That is why it's still very popular in Korea. Inspiration stories go forever; however, showing only an erotic drama does not go longer peroid time because people do not want to see & feel bad taste all the time. Thanks.
anon #3, are you in Korea? if you are, i wonder if Korea joongbo still exist? i read many joongbo webs but haven't seen k-joongboers. i wonder how the situation of joongbo is like in its native country. thanks
Hi, I'm Anon#1. Thanks for sharing your views on this. I love this place more than Soompi because it feels cozier here with lesser but "nicer" people :D.
I am actually not saying that HJ may like JSM. It's not abt JSM or PK in particular here. I'm just saying, from looking at HJ's actions in all behind the scene clips, his actions are not reflective of an 'attached" man with commitment. This is my personal point of view because I do believe loyal people CAN control their feelings and behaviors. That's exactly what Hwangbo did in WGM. She used her head to control her emotions and drew the lines with HJ. I only hope that HJ actually did all those things to promote this drama (proving that they have off-screen chemistry) because he knew all those scenes will be aired. He is smart and certainly knows how to manipulate the media. So my only hope is that he did it with a purpose for his career. Or else... I'm really sad.
And also, I'm dying for more recent Joongbo spazzs...
I don't have any real Joongbo spazzs...but working on the JP PS so cheer up wild fancies ^___^
blind faith.. i think it's what's keeping me in this ship.. though they have not confirmed anything, i still believe...
purple-chagi
lighten up, ladies! what was shown on PK regular show and YT webisodes were not "erotic" as you call them! maybe they did have a lot of kissing scenes, as obviously in the title, but no way would these even be described as erotic! if you even saw the Taiwan version of ISWAK and its sequel, with such torrid kissing between Joe and Ariel, then maybeou could call it not suitable for children! compared with those, PK was super super mild in the kissing department!
sometimes i really don't know who are real joongboers from not...forgive me, but i can't help but think that there are comments who claim they are joongboers but they just want to rock this ship and see if others will sway too and jump off the ship. Or they just say what they feel and wants to find comfort to others who cannot be swayed by negativity.
As far as I know, a true joongboer will still believe, will not be swayed by negativity.
Sorry if my post may offend others, but i am really curious right now of who are the real joongboers and who are the fake ones.
I will still believe and from what I saw in PK, may it be BTS or the actual scenes itself, there is nothing special about it. I support shillang in everything he does and will still support PK but my heart will also believe in the genuineness of what I saw between HB and HJ.
Hi anon above,
I'm anon#1. Yes I think I am the fake joongbo. In a sense that I do support joongbo very very much and really really want them to be married in real life because I also believe in what I saw in WGM that they are really compatible. I also believe and enjoy those spazzs in the past two years. But if it is confirmed they are not together anymore then there's no Joongbo for me, there's only HJ and HB individually. So if it doesn't fit into the Joongbo family motto (support Joongbo no matter whether they are together or not) then I apologize for spreading the negativity. You're right, negativity should not be spread. I'll continue to pray for them in silence.
i watched PK religiously for I support shillang in his projects. Although PK is not my cup of tea, I watched it till the end. As far as I know in the "cheek" thing, it is in the script and it was seen in the actual episode, if i'm not mistaken it's in ep 3. So i don't think there is a big fuzz over there as they are just practicing the scenes.
We are all speculators and spectators here in the JB world...so whether they are together or not, there will always be JOONGBO. They made us feel love and perceive life positively so they will be forever in our hearts.
Anon #4. I'm not in Korea. Ssorry, so I cannot give info. about it.
Anon #1- its ok to express ur thinking as long as no bashing anyone then it's OK. if u are down, come to ask the senior joongboers to cheer you up. that's what a team is for right. no need to say sorry. there is ups and downs moments of this ship. this ship is truly hard to sail but we still survive so hang in there. Lots of joongboers still believe and support them together and individually. Everyone understand that if this ship is landed at least we all met wonderful pp in our fandom and at least witness a beautiful and sincere love bt HJ and HB in that 8 months. I don't think anyone will regret for joining this ship because in reality there is no promise from either one of them. Most of us are mature, so with any ending, this fandom brings lots of happiness to many pp in the past years. think positive, you will be more happy
Pity HJ..because of that very 'Innocent face' an idol who is an icon of fine behaviour and high morality,when he was 'acting' as 'a character'..instead of 'appreciate it' people are shocked actually and dare not see or watch it, just like when we see a very clean white cloth fell on a dirty mud..just like that.He has to choose a better character for the betterment of the young generation!!Best of luck to HJ.
@Anon #1 : Good god! From your descriptions/freaking out, I thought HJ was like sticking his tongue down JM's throat or something. Turns out it's just him touching her cheek after having to pinch it hard. I think that's a normal response from anyone really, it's like " Oops sorry about that hard pinch."
Also I find the comments against PK and its supposed erotic content really unsavory. I didn't watch PK at all except for a few clips including those kissing moments which seem to freak you and the other anon out a lot. The two characters are in love, in a relationship and only do things that come within that territory. Why is an act of affection such as kissing so taboo? Furthermore, in the YT edition, the two of them are married! Please tell me Koreans actually kiss their significant others. Or else that is just one sad country! =/
Also the argument that Double S and thus HJ was all pure and innocent unlike the scandalous PK (and I'm using "scandalous" as sarcasm here) is pure b.s!
If you remember the solo video for Double S, the story line for that include kidnapping, gun, murders, lots of blood (I'm talking about you, gratuitous shower scene!), so how can you really say that Double S was that pure? And really now, remember all that shirt ripping HJ did during his concert, how the heck would that count as "innocent"?
If you don't care for PK, don't watch it. But I think it's completely silly and give bad name to JB-ers for you to go around bashing its content with such ridiculous reasons.
Ugh, I can't believe this is the second time I have to defend PK and I didn't even watch the darn thing =/
@Ssangchuheaven: I'm sorry for the spam but I was wondering, do you log IP address of anon in the comment? Are these anons all one and the same?
LOL, no we are not the same. not sure about the rest but i am the 2nd anon and the 2 posts above ur post. I am piggy2. lazy to put my name :)
Hello Sshangchudream,
I'm anon#1, different from the one just above u so I didn't make my assessment regarding PK based on my image of HJ as an "innocent man". Haha, to me he is anything but innocent. And I love him exposing his "impurity side" to Hwangbo, or else we wouldn't have anything to talk abt after two years :P.
My thoughts about PK special edition as bad soft porn still stand. And yes I did follow your advise to not to watch it (I didn't watch it anymore after ep2).
For this "But I think it's completely silly and give bad name to JB-ers for you to go around bashing its content with such ridiculous reasons" <-- I salute you!
those i put "I am Anon#1" belong to me. The rests are not.
Anon#1
@anon1, i am sorry if you are kinda offended on my post. I just can't identify now the joongboers from the fake ones. I mean, the fake ones who are really not in this ship and pretend that they are in just to cause commotion in our world and to those joongboers who posts rants and just wants to be cheered or caressed by the other joongboers.
There are some who lurk here and want to mess up our haven.
I do apologize if my previous post kinda hurt you a bit...i really didn't mean to hurt a fellow joongboer's feeling.
At first, I want to say thank you to SH that posted HJ pics above.. He is so cute^^
Second, I want to say that I agree with Ssangchudream opinion..
I'm a die-hard JBers but I also love HJ and HB as a person and support their activities..
I love them because I love their love and their interaction in WGM (from my POV, yes I think they love each other at that time) and then I became loving their personality too..
I watched PK drama also PK special in YT as my support to HJ.. coz buin also support him when he want to do d BOF drama.. I think of it as a gahun for them..
At first, I also feel sad or a bit down when I know there will be a lot of kiss scenes in the drama.. but when time goes by as I watch the drama, I feel numb & didn't feel anything again when I see HJ kiss scenes, maybe becoz I seen many perfects fancam that showing that HJ interaction when he was not in front of d camera is not so close like what ppl think.
I also tried to make analyzes of KHJ PK BTS that make many JBers feel unease here http://wallerian.blogspot.com/2010/11/my-analyze-of-khj-pk-bts.html so that JBers at least could feel a bit ease after read it.. coz when u observed it well u will know that PK and that BTS is just a job for him.
For me, yes PK have so much kissing scene compared other K-drama that I ever seen, but I think it's not in erotic area yet, coz those kissing scene was taken when they BSJ and OHN already married and the kiss scene that can be categorize as a deep kiss just 2 or 3 times I guess, the other kiss is mild or taken from far..
It just my opinion, but overall.. I kinda understand the feeling of many JBers like you anon#1, that smtm feel down when see that kinda scene and feel want to give up this ship.. actually it's all up to you..
but since the first time I join this ship I know that it's like a roller coaster ride, that can make me feel up and down.. but until one of them officially married I'll keep believing^^
hi again ladies, i was the 8th poster from the top.
i just totally disagree with anon#1 that PK was "soft porn" or even "erotic".
my dear, you just have to go check out those so called "adult websites" to distinguish soft porn from the "wholesome" PK.
although PK was not much on substance and acting, on the whole i found it cute at best, mainly because of JSM's acting. loving KHJ since 2008 as a true blue joongboers, i cannot help but accept that HJ is not a really good actor at this time.
but definitely the story of PK and its presentation CANNOT BE DESCRIBED AS PORNOGRAPHIC OR EROTIC, please get that into your heads!
and as for Koreans being super conservative, maybe she has not seen such mainstream films (Untold Scandal, April Snow, etc.)where in respected A-list actors as Yonsama and the like appeared totally nude and had really hot/suggestive/simulated sex scenes!!!
Kim Hyun Joong is still wholesome, despite the kissing scenes in PK!!! its his job, for crying out loud! if he wants to make it big as an actor, he has to be able to do a whole range of various scenes!
all i can say is that his fans need to grow up!
hmmm...Yonsama and the like appeared totally nude and smexy, OMG, gotta check that out.....xDDD
Hello Joongboers.
Let me tell you about in American drama "Sex and City." I do not watch often the drama. Even though the title is Sex, it doesn't show that many kissing & sex scences even though America is an open society for the viewers. Also, If you think the PK's kissing & bed scences are not erotic, then I want to ask you what the definition of erotic is. Don't you think seeing constantly kissing & bed scences cause erotic moods to you guys. Even though all adults feel it, how do the teens feel and act after seeing the constant erotic moments by their idol, KHJ, via youtube & on TV. What do they see & learn from their idol's kissing & bed scences? It causes further social problems such as teenage sexual activities and teen age pregnancies. Also, most teens cannot distinguish between real & acting. I work with so many teenage pregnant moms, and then they have very harsh lives because they are immature & not ready to take responsibilities of having babies. I'm sad that the PK group did not considerate at all the effect of social problems. They just want to make money w/o any ethical consideration to our Korean & international teen society. That is the reason it got lower viewers rate in Korea; on the contrary, it got high rating on youtube due to teens watching via online. I hope no more showing the erotic moments. Thanks.
Hello Anon above,
hehehe sorry I started my ranting by mentioning PK. Bad move bad move!!! I was just nursing my nearly broken heart after watching BTS and a few other off-screen clips. Didn't mean to start a PK discussion. Sorry guys, my bad move in a down time!!! So I think it's okie for you and me to not watch PK (or not let your kids watch it). It's also okie for other Joongboers here watch and love it. Anyway, people have different tastes and ideas of what good shows are and there are no standards. So you and I keep our views. Other fans keep their views. But I do apologize for calling PK "soft porn". Should have kept it in my head and remember not to use "special word" in public place coz I might offend people who love the show. But yes, in mind head, it is still classified as such. And No, please, you don't have to waste time telling me otherwise :D
anon#1
Are you kidding me? Please tell me you are b/c if not, I will start to think you're a troll who are deliberately being obtuse b/c you are actually comparing Sex and the City to the chasteness that is PK?
I watched the show. Almost all the seasons and I can tell you, ppl make out (with tongue I may add) in that show about every 10 mins. And they were all promiscuous ppl who has multiple one night stands. My mind is beyond being boggled that you actually are comparing PK with "Sex" and think that "Sex" is less erotic. Why is your reality of life so different from mine? =/
"What do they see & learn from their idol's kissing & bed scences?"..that when you're in love and being married to that person, you can actually kiss your wife? That it's normal to kiss the person you're in love with?
And ok Ssangchuheaven, I promise I stop spamming your place now.
oh ssangchudream, i really really love ur comments. ditto to that...and don't stop spamming here because your posts can enlighten some people here.
O..yes please do,HJ must be laughing to see this blog now.Wa..he's getting more popular..he can have as many kisses with any one he likes..why worry people here screaming or whatever they want to say..he's a man now..big boy.MK or BTS only circulated in Korea only right?No other countries can watch it.Cool down please..
dear anon#1: i wanted to ask you to google "softcore pornography" or "soft porn" as you call it. but to save you the trouble, i just checked it out myself. wikipedia says that "softcore pornography" is characterized by nude or seminude photos or films that depict sexual activity (the definition was more detailed, but lest i offend anyone else, i won't use them here), although not as graphically as "hardcore pornography". exposure of male or female genitalia are also part of "soft porn", so i guess PK does not qualify, definitely!
-Anon#8
I also can't tell if all people claiming to be joongboers are real joongboers or faking to sink this ship.
About playful kiss...
Yes, I was one of the joongboers who was hurt/jealous because of the sexy and intimate scenes there. I mean, it's natural since my loyalty is for JOONGBO.. But all I tell myself is that it is just a DRAMA. They are actors who have to do their jobs. We are aware of the low ratings of PK right? If they dont do any "noise" for the drama, what will our shillang feel? That he is a failure? I do believe (or just call me blind) that the BTS are somewhat scripted. Of course they know that they were being filmed because if not, for sure our shillang is sleeping in one corner LOL!
I am not a MINJOONG fan but I do support them (sincerely).. But again.. My loyalty is for our JOONGBO
oh my dear joongboers. He needs his job so he needs to act his part. if it is a totally failure then we will not see HJ on drama screen anymore. Like SS501 now, i don't even know when can we see all the boys together again. Loosen up a little bit, you will feel better. but compare PK to TW, Hj is nothing compare to ARJOe, they just kiss whenever they want to and the kisses were not scripted. At least PK is scripted so he only follow the scripts. I believed if HB in a drama that required the kiss scenes, as a professional, i do believe she will do the same. If they are together, i totally believed she will not give him a hard time due to his job. Remember HJ try to make HB watch his kiss scene in BOF? she supported his drama but did she said something about she will not watch it? If buin can tolerate his job then why not us right?
Let's the subject drop ladies. PP do need the bowl of rice for survival specially chances are knocking on his door. How many pp in here don't like your supervisor but has to follow their instruction just because of surviving? Same to him, in order for him to keep his job, he must act out the best so more drama can come to him. Beside personal life, he does have his professional life. We can't mixed them together. If we see him kissing other woman during his personal life then yeah, we will leave this ship. Just like the HK incident but we survived right? so this PK is really really minor.
piggy2
Anon #4: There are tons of K-JoongBoers, they are just underground cause they had too much trouble with antis...
-Anon#501
Wow, you guys why hatin' on PK??? It's not even their own story line. It's followed by a manga...
I find PK really interesting, and nice... It's really heart touching.
@jayne, not all of us hate PK...the PK related news will not be posted here if we indeed hate PK.
He he he..I can see a fisherman in a boat.He was holding his fishing rod with a bait on it...he just wanted to see what type of fish live there.Suddenly another fish snatched the bait..etc..etc.so the fisherman know the black side of the fish from another's fish mouth not from the fisherman himself..
KHJ is doing his job yet people are attacking him just because he's not meeting the 'wild fantasy coupling' idea.
What's with the erotic & soft porn comment? You surely are stuck with the image of the 'kid groom' that you failed to see his development as a man, as an actor.
PK is a hot topic today, keep that attitude of yours & prepared to be flock with hard-core fans.
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