HJ is jjang!! Keyeast might have the idea to promote him to China market soon. Anyway, side note - did anyone noticed the HKG singer Joey Yeung was staring at HJ most of the time?
Anon#4: LOL maybe not powerful, but I still think it has its charm and can be really pleasant if given the right song. I heard people say the same with HB, but I always say that too...more importantly, I think that both have a unique voice/style that are identifiable, which is also important for singers. Anyway, so proud of him and HB too with her latest single ^ ^
I'm a hyunnie firstly anon #4... There are many things lacking but he doesn't stop trying and thats what counts. Btw, don't be afraid of joongbo-ers or hyunnies, be deathly afraid of PERFECTS.
I watched the 2010 Asian Games Ceremony "Wow". Don't know what I was thinking, stupid me, I thought KHJ would be singing solo. I guess I assumed because of all the hype. But that's what I get for thinking, right? But, KHJ must be used to his fans screaming and yelling at his concerts, but this, was totally a different audience. But despite it all, what an HONOR.
A Hyunnie is a general Kim Hyun Joong fan. They are from entry level "Oh he's cool" to "ZOMIGASH HE'S AMAZINGLYWONDERFULSDFGHJKL!!!". Perfects on the other hand is a cut above, they're those fangirls that travel to destinations--they've got some kind of insider network between themselves (it's a mystery to me, really)--and basically, they're the die-hard hard core fans that get the best and clearest fancams/pictures. They're dedicated. And Really REALLY possessive. They're also the ones who donate/gift the most...
I, as a knowledgeable novice in HJ fandom, am fearful of a Perfect's wrath. :)
@j.j I am a Perfect and I've been a fan of this site for quite some time. Not all perfects are as you described. I hope you would stop lumping or assuming that u know how we are or what we think. I am a perfect who whole heartedly adore the joongbo couple. Yes some can be extreme but not all of us are. I haven't felt the need to defend myself throughout all the insults hurled my way the last couple of posts but I wanted to at least defend the faction of perfects who do like joongbo. We already have to deal with our own group but we are also being crucified by the likes of you. Please don't speak for us if u have no idea how all of us feel. I defend you guys on a daily basis please don't make me feel like it's for a lost cause. Thank you.
wow isn't this freakingly weird... not the singing, but the circumstance - joongbo-related! ASIAN GAMES in CHINA!?!?! 2 yrs ago, during that episode where they were talking about marathon - HJ said to her "why..aren't you in Beijing right now?" (referring to the Olympics in Beijing then). Who would've thought about this, right? I know he's popular and all, but to be chosen as the SK singer representative at the Asian games didn't seem to be an offer that would normally come along his way...but it happened. Also, I remembered -- "The kind of event that fits our family motto are the events where we do the openings and endings.." haha the ssangchu gahun at work!
@JJ: We shouldn't assume things like that. Not all fanclub members are like that. KingHyunjoong also got very HQ photos and cams, did you know?
It's not acceptable to generalize. I am not a Perfect nor am I a Hyunnie, nor a King Hyunjoong fanclub member, but I do recognize when one is clearly putting down someone by ASSUMING. :/ Like Cecily I am one of the MANY HJ fans who constantly fight for Joongbo, but reading comments like what you just did, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth honestly... :/
i don't think CECILY is from perfect and much like joongbo because i've known from perfect that they don't want share their vids to joongboers site and all of them don't want our HB links to khj.
@j.j I did not leave the comment to find fault in what you said but rather to clarify some of your beliefs. I don't believe you said it with a malicious intent. I think you just have some preconceived notions about Perfects. And thank you for adjusting your comments in the future. I do appreciate that. I hope the rest of the readers understand that she didn't mean to be offensive.
@anonymous I am a Perfect and yes they can be very extreme and difficult but not all of them are the same in what they believe. It's like you're saying she's not Korean because she doesn't eat kim chi.
@anonymous yes I have been following ss501 since the beginning and I support all the members together or separate. Though there only a small number of Perfects who do support joongie and hwangbo we do exist.
I'm curious about something though. The poster who claimed to be a Perfect member can answer me..I would like to know if it's true that up until now, your fanclub still errmmm..."hates" (for lack of a better word) HB? If yes, WHY? I'm really confused. -_- I mean if WGM is an old issue already, why is it that the wrath seemed to live on?? I hope someone can clarify.
@ Cecily, I hope you do explain the "Perfect's" creed or the premise of what makes this special delegation, as I've said, "a cut above". It would help demystify the group, but that's my take on things.
And, likewise, thank you for: "And thank you for adjusting your comments in the future. I do appreciate that. I hope the rest of the readers understand that she didn't mean to be offensive." <~ this right here is Tolerance. Not the passive aggressive antipathy we so often find and answer with a snort and "whatever". It is a conscious addressing of the issue and conceding to the fact that the other person does not feel the same, yet is understanding enough to accept.
@ Anonymous (x2--the both of you...) Thank you for expressing your dissatisfaction. And I stress again, that I shall adjust my future comments. However, I do want to give recognition that open conversations like this should be fostered to clear up misconceptions. I'm a willing candidate, even if I do get "hated" or "slammed" (not that anyone has done that--but just clarifying) if it's in the name of a good example and further's understanding.
Point is: Here at Ssangcho, under the umbrella of Net Neutrality and the guidance of SH, Meme =p, and LvK, we are able to say and speak our minds. Hopefully people are able to receive it graciously, taking things with a grain of salt. We should not be "netizens" (the "nightmarish" cases of the lot) that jump down each other's throat, and before we react with "hot fingers", should ask for clarification first.
This was my "knee jerk" reaction to the Hot Issue, a few posts back.
Thank you,
J.J.
P.S. SH, forgive me for being forthright and "taking over". This is your show after all ;)
@anonymous-Again, let me clarify that I am a Perfect not just claiming to be one. It's really trying to have to say it over and over again. What do I get out of pretending to be one?
Being a Perfect the number 1 requirement is to support KIm Hyun Joong. As a member of this fanclub you get first dibs on interview news, sighting, videos, and etc.
Borrowing the "all koreans like kim chi" analogy again, yes Koreans eat kimchi but not all of them do. Most Perfects have a problem with Hwangbo but not all of them. Many of them feel that Hwangbo is too old for him and that she milked their relationship on WGM to revive her career. Like Meme's post earlier this month, many people have misunderstood her for an "idol groupie." She was linked with several popular idols afterall.
You must understand there are always two sides to every story but many people don't stop to listen to both sides. They only listen to the side that they trust even though that might not always be accurate. So the Perfect fans feel as she was using him and therefore not good enough for him. And when you have articles that feed their hatred they tend to latch on.
Perhaps it's because I have been there since the beginning and that's why I don't have an issue or because I have always been fond of the Shinhwa guys.
I've been able to turn a few more Perfect who are on the fence about the joongie/hwangbo combo into fans due to this site. The last couple of posts and fan art has been nice. Thanks SSangchu Heaven and Meme for some really nice posts. I no longer feel like my effort has been in vain.
However, I never felt the need to comment until just recently. It does not help the cause when there are nuetral Perfects who enjoy this site and are criticized without reason. Trolls? Immediately someone who left a hateful message was automatically labeled as a Perfect. I didn't feel that was particurly fair.
You can alway catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Please remember that.
I hoped I explained some of your quandaries. Please remember that not everyone is cut from the same cloth. SSangchu Heaven thank you for a wonderful site. Meme thank you very much for your recent posts they were very sincere. LVK your PS material may anger many Perfects but some of your work is saved on my desktop.
@ Cecily, Thank you for taking the time to write such a thoughtful reply and clearing up the mystery of what is a Perfect.
I hope all will be well with you and I then, if we do cross paths here in SH, again. :)
That old adage "You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar" is quiet true, and I completely agree.
I've always thought it easier to thank a person for their thoughts rather than to immediately blast them...it only makes them kick up their defense mechanisms. This of course is heavily influenced by my background...
We are the world, ONE WORLD..sometimes we're PERFECT,sometimes not too perfect.People from different ideology can remain in peace if we have TENDER<CARE<LOVING...so cheer up everybody,no heart feeling..let LOVE our couple here and all people of the world.HIP HIP HOORAY!!SSANGCHU HEAVEN is for PEACE..
seriously, no one cares if you are a PERFECT, a Hyunnie, a HB fan, PK-er, or a combo of the above. WHATEVER. just support HJ and HB if you want to, no need to get all up in arms about which territory you stand on. Just support the Sangchu couple, and there's no need for any disagreements on here. People from all over the world come to this site to support the Sangchu couple, and I for one am getting sick of all of these arguments. Just know who you are and what you believe in and there is no reason to get angry at each other if someone does not understand. PEACE out.
@ SH, and here I was nervous that I'd be stealing your mod-thunder. Lol <3 ;) I've got stuff to send to you! But forgive me I'm not as coherent as can be, I'm sick. :( Only functioning in half-haze.
thanks cecily to clarify it. I totally agree that there are different pp in every fan club. welcome to share your thoughts. i believed most of joongboers are very understanding. I am so glad that both of u and JJ are very understanding and solve the misunderstand in a mature manner :)
I have a question and hope that u can help me out cecily. I didn't finish reading perfect notes about joongbo coz it's too long but is it true that HJ's manager said that HB and her company gave HJ a hard time and make him to stay? I just wondering how did they get all these called "inside news" or it's just whoever dislike HB said that. I don't believed what they said but i am just curious only. thanks.
^^^ mandarin. Many people were telling me that his pronunciation is actually quite good considering he doesn't know a lick of it and practice time was short XDD
I think that when people think KHJ fan or HB fan they automatically think Perfect and Estella just cause those are the biggest/well known fanclubs of them and with bigger numbers, there will always be a chance of the stereotypical crazy fans... Even though there are fans of HJL who don't like HB and HB fans who don't like KHJ (anti JB)just remember there are many members who aren't like that at all and they have to deal with their own internal struggles~ So it's really great that they can openly express their love for JB on the many sites dedicated to uri lovely couple ^ ^
Happy Sunday to all. I love reading all the comments. The debate ended in a mature way. Claps to those involved. ^^
I am one of those who have the same thought as JJ (after i discovered the anti-WGM message posted on their webby). Thanks to JJ who brought this issue up and thanks to Cecily for clarifications.
@cecily: Thank u for your clarification.. I'm glad there are some 'perfects' that also like Joongbo couple. If you didn't say about it, maybe we won't know about it. You are right that we can't just generalize everyone in one community to be the same.. Actually, I feel thankful for many vids and info about HJ that I get from perfects, coz this fanclub always give the most clear fancam of what HJ done or HJ's activities, and smtm I also can use it to spazzing, hehe^^
Btw, I'm really glad that many of HJ HB conversations or stuffs in WGM directly or indirectly becomes true now.. like when she said BYJ name is lettuce sonata, now he is under KE or BYJ management. when he said abt Asian games, now he is singing for the opening ceremony in Asian Games, and many more that I can't mention one by one~
@Anon who asked about whether HB and her company made HJ stayed on WGM ~ To be honest, none of us have that answer because none of us were involved in that process. However, I just want to point out that HB doesn't even have a company that manage her. Even though, STAY produces a lot of her music, she's more like an independent celeb who manage her own things. So right there is something fishy about that site's claim.
And if somehow a PERFECT got the real info on that, I don't really see how it would benefit their beloved HJ to release that info to the public b/c it reflect rather badly on him, don't you think? Sure it shows that he's a nice guy who can't say no to a woman, but it also shows that he is a liar because if he really hates staying on that badly then how can he say things like " I feel like god sent you to me"? Especially when HJ kept on emphasized that the WGM HJ is the real HJ. No matter how they argue it, they can't get over the fact that they will have to call their beloved idol a "liar" to defend him.
wave to snow, we have the same thinking :) I just post similar thing in soompi. joongboers do think alike he he
I love all the joongboers either from this site or soompi. we are so mature and solve the prolems in very mature way and peaceful way. I am glad to be one of us. Seems like we do have lots of visitors from other fan groups and joongbo do exist that is why seems like we are a threat to their fandom :)
thanks for the clarifications and mature discussions, Cecily and JJ.
and those are good points about the disputed Perfect WGM post, Ssangchu Heaven. some things don't match up, especially regarding HJ's sincerity and honesty, but now i'll remember not to blame all of Perfect.
I love you all Joongboers! Were all here to support our lovely couple!
@fudge and snow: I don't know if it's fate or what, but it seems like the universe is conspiring to let them cross paths or at least have connections from WGM. Apart from the Asian games, Buin wished BOF would be a big hit and we all know it was one. If either of them participate in London games, I'd at loss for words. Too much of a coincidence! Segyero!
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so proud of our hyunjoongie!! as always, he looks adorable.
why everything he said to Buin in WGM became true. It's like a magic magic magic..omo omo omo..haha
HJ is jjang!! Keyeast might have the idea to promote him to China market soon. Anyway, side note - did anyone noticed the HKG singer Joey Yeung was staring at HJ most of the time?
to be honest, his vocal is not very powerful, but since I'm joongbo fan still supporting him.. (get ready to be beaten up from joongbo fan)
Anon #4...
this blog is not a boxing ring. LOL
you should be afraid of Hyunjoong's fan not the joongbo fan.
Anon#4: LOL maybe not powerful, but I still think it has its charm and can be really pleasant if given the right song. I heard people say the same with HB, but I always say that too...more importantly, I think that both have a unique voice/style that are identifiable, which is also important for singers. Anyway, so proud of him and HB too with her latest single ^ ^
I'm a hyunnie firstly anon #4... There are many things lacking but he doesn't stop trying and thats what counts. Btw, don't be afraid of joongbo-ers or hyunnies, be deathly afraid of PERFECTS.
I watched the 2010 Asian Games Ceremony "Wow". Don't know what I was thinking, stupid me, I thought KHJ would be singing solo. I guess I assumed because of all the hype. But that's what I get for thinking, right? But, KHJ must be used to his fans screaming and yelling at his concerts, but this, was totally a different audience. But despite it all, what an HONOR.
Even though shillang can't participate as athlete at least He can participate on Asian Games opening ceremony as singer! ^^
Shillang, Fighting!
@J.J>> Can you explain the difference between Hyunnies & Perfect?
-curious-
Anonymous
A Hyunnie is a general Kim Hyun Joong fan. They are from entry level "Oh he's cool" to "ZOMIGASH HE'S AMAZINGLYWONDERFULSDFGHJKL!!!". Perfects on the other hand is a cut above, they're those fangirls that travel to destinations--they've got some kind of insider network between themselves (it's a mystery to me, really)--and basically, they're the die-hard hard core fans that get the best and clearest fancams/pictures. They're dedicated. And Really REALLY possessive. They're also the ones who donate/gift the most...
I, as a knowledgeable novice in HJ fandom, am fearful of a Perfect's wrath. :)
Any HJ fan's here please feel free to correct me.
HJ as handsome as ever !
SH i love ur blog!
@j.j I am a Perfect and I've been a fan of this site for quite some time. Not all perfects are as you described. I hope you would stop lumping or assuming that u know how we are or what we think. I am a perfect who whole heartedly adore the joongbo couple. Yes some can be extreme but not all of us are. I haven't felt the need to defend myself throughout all the insults hurled my way the last couple of posts but I wanted to at least defend the faction of perfects who do like joongbo. We already have to deal with our own group but we are also being crucified by the likes of you. Please don't speak for us if u have no idea how all of us feel. I defend you guys on a daily basis please don't make me feel like it's for a lost cause. Thank you.
@ Cecily, thank you for your reply. I will, therefore, adjust my comments accordingly.
wow isn't this freakingly weird... not the singing, but the circumstance - joongbo-related! ASIAN GAMES in CHINA!?!?! 2 yrs ago, during that episode where they were talking about marathon - HJ said to her "why..aren't you in Beijing right now?" (referring to the Olympics in Beijing then). Who would've thought about this, right? I know he's popular and all, but to be chosen as the SK singer representative at the Asian games didn't seem to be an offer that would normally come along his way...but it happened. Also, I remembered -- "The kind of event that fits our family motto are the events where we do the openings and endings.." haha the ssangchu gahun at work!
^^ to the world!!!
@ Fudgeorange, i was thinking the same thing with my sister and my best friend.
LONDON 2012 NEXT~ LOL :)
@JJ: We shouldn't assume things like that. Not all fanclub members are like that. KingHyunjoong also got very HQ photos and cams, did you know?
It's not acceptable to generalize. I am not a Perfect nor am I a Hyunnie, nor a King Hyunjoong fanclub member, but I do recognize when one is clearly putting down someone by ASSUMING. :/ Like Cecily I am one of the MANY HJ fans who constantly fight for Joongbo, but reading comments like what you just did, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth honestly... :/
i don't think CECILY is from perfect and much like joongbo because i've known from perfect that they don't want share their vids to joongboers site and all of them don't want our HB links to khj.
^^^ On the other hand there are HJPerfect members before WGM started. This maybe why Cecily follow Joongbo even if she was a Perfect before the show
@j.j I did not leave the comment to find fault in what you said but rather to clarify some of your beliefs. I don't believe you said it with a malicious intent. I think you just have some preconceived notions about Perfects. And thank you for adjusting your comments in the future. I do appreciate that. I hope the rest of the readers understand that she didn't mean to be offensive.
@anonymous I am a Perfect and yes they can be very extreme and difficult but not all of them are the same in what they believe. It's like you're saying she's not Korean because she doesn't eat kim chi.
@anonymous yes I have been following ss501 since the beginning and I support all the members together or separate. Though there only a small number of Perfects who do support joongie and hwangbo we do exist.
I'm curious about something though. The poster who claimed to be a Perfect member can answer me..I would like to know if it's true that up until now, your fanclub still errmmm..."hates" (for lack of a better word) HB? If yes, WHY? I'm really confused. -_- I mean if WGM is an old issue already, why is it that the wrath seemed to live on?? I hope someone can clarify.
@ Cecily, I hope you do explain the "Perfect's" creed or the premise of what makes this special delegation, as I've said, "a cut above". It would help demystify the group, but that's my take on things.
And, likewise, thank you for: "And thank you for adjusting your comments in the future. I do appreciate that. I hope the rest of the readers understand that she didn't mean to be offensive." <~ this right here is Tolerance. Not the passive aggressive antipathy we so often find and answer with a snort and "whatever". It is a conscious addressing of the issue and conceding to the fact that the other person does not feel the same, yet is understanding enough to accept.
@ Anonymous (x2--the both of you...) Thank you for expressing your dissatisfaction. And I stress again, that I shall adjust my future comments. However, I do want to give recognition that open conversations like this should be fostered to clear up misconceptions. I'm a willing candidate, even if I do get "hated" or "slammed" (not that anyone has done that--but just clarifying) if it's in the name of a good example and further's understanding.
Point is: Here at Ssangcho, under the umbrella of Net Neutrality and the guidance of SH, Meme =p, and LvK, we are able to say and speak our minds. Hopefully people are able to receive it graciously, taking things with a grain of salt. We should not be "netizens" (the "nightmarish" cases of the lot) that jump down each other's throat, and before we react with "hot fingers", should ask for clarification first.
This was my "knee jerk" reaction to the Hot Issue, a few posts back.
Thank you,
J.J.
P.S. SH, forgive me for being forthright and "taking over". This is your show after all ;)
Let's just agree to disagree, but know that all of us are ONE IN JOONG-BO!!! I love you all :)
@anonymous-Again, let me clarify that I am a Perfect not just claiming to be one. It's really trying to have to say it over and over again. What do I get out of pretending to be one?
Being a Perfect the number 1 requirement is to support KIm Hyun Joong. As a member of this fanclub you get first dibs on interview news, sighting, videos, and etc.
Borrowing the "all koreans like kim chi" analogy again, yes Koreans eat kimchi but not all of them do. Most Perfects have a problem with Hwangbo but not all of them. Many of them feel that Hwangbo is too old for him and that she milked their relationship on WGM to revive her career. Like Meme's post earlier this month, many people have misunderstood her for an "idol groupie." She was linked with several popular idols afterall.
You must understand there are always two sides to every story but many people don't stop to listen to both sides. They only listen to the side that they trust even though that might not always be accurate. So the Perfect fans feel as she was using him and therefore not good enough for him. And when you have articles that feed their hatred they tend to latch on.
Perhaps it's because I have been there since the beginning and that's why I don't have an issue or because I have always been fond of the Shinhwa guys.
I've been able to turn a few more Perfect who are on the fence about the joongie/hwangbo combo into fans due to this site. The last couple of posts and fan art has been nice. Thanks SSangchu Heaven and Meme for some really nice posts. I no longer feel like my effort has been in vain.
However, I never felt the need to comment until just recently. It does not help the cause when there are nuetral Perfects who enjoy this site and are criticized without reason. Trolls? Immediately someone who left a hateful message was automatically labeled as a Perfect. I didn't feel that was particurly fair.
You can alway catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. Please remember that.
I hoped I explained some of your quandaries. Please remember that not everyone is cut from the same cloth. SSangchu Heaven thank you for a wonderful site. Meme thank you very much for your recent posts they were very sincere. LVK your PS material may anger many Perfects but some of your work is saved on my desktop.
@ Cecily, Thank you for taking the time to write such a thoughtful reply and clearing up the mystery of what is a Perfect.
I hope all will be well with you and I then, if we do cross paths here in SH, again. :)
That old adage "You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar" is quiet true, and I completely agree.
I've always thought it easier to thank a person for their thoughts rather than to immediately blast them...it only makes them kick up their defense mechanisms. This of course is heavily influenced by my background...
Anyway, here's to Ssangcho Heaven! :)
@fudgeorange, girl, you are suave....xDD
We are the world, ONE WORLD..sometimes we're PERFECT,sometimes not too perfect.People from different ideology can remain in peace if we have TENDER<CARE<LOVING...so cheer up everybody,no heart feeling..let LOVE our couple here and all people of the world.HIP HIP HOORAY!!SSANGCHU HEAVEN is for PEACE..
which anonymous is cecily talking to?
seriously, no one cares if you are a PERFECT, a Hyunnie, a HB fan, PK-er, or a combo of the above. WHATEVER. just support HJ and HB if you want to, no need to get all up in arms about which territory you stand on. Just support the Sangchu couple, and there's no need for any disagreements on here. People from all over the world come to this site to support the Sangchu couple, and I for one am getting sick of all of these arguments. Just know who you are and what you believe in and there is no reason to get angry at each other if someone does not understand. PEACE out.
Oh, ladies I want to give you all a big hug!~!! It makes me happy disagreements can be easily fixed~! whew~
TO THE WORLD!!!
JOONGBO HWAITING!!!!!
I agree!! @Anonymous, thank you, it was very well put! it brought a smile to my face :)
@ SH, and here I was nervous that I'd be stealing your mod-thunder. Lol <3 ;) I've got stuff to send to you! But forgive me I'm not as coherent as can be, I'm sick. :( Only functioning in half-haze.
Was HJ singing in mandarin or Korean? I couldn't tell
thanks cecily to clarify it. I totally agree that there are different pp in every fan club. welcome to share your thoughts. i believed most of joongboers are very understanding. I am so glad that both of u and JJ are very understanding and solve the misunderstand in a mature manner :)
I have a question and hope that u can help me out cecily. I didn't finish reading perfect notes about joongbo coz it's too long but is it true that HJ's manager said that HB and her company gave HJ a hard time and make him to stay? I just wondering how did they get all these called "inside news" or it's just whoever dislike HB said that. I don't believed what they said but i am just curious only. thanks.
^^^ mandarin. Many people were telling me that his pronunciation is actually quite good considering he doesn't know a lick of it and practice time was short XDD
I think that when people think KHJ fan or HB fan they automatically think Perfect and Estella just cause those are the biggest/well known fanclubs of them and with bigger numbers, there will always be a chance of the stereotypical crazy fans... Even though there are fans of HJL who don't like HB and HB fans who don't like KHJ (anti JB)just remember there are many members who aren't like that at all and they have to deal with their own internal struggles~ So it's really great that they can openly express their love for JB on the many sites dedicated to uri lovely couple ^ ^
Happy Sunday to all. I love reading all the comments. The debate ended in a mature way. Claps to those involved. ^^
I am one of those who have the same thought as JJ (after i discovered the anti-WGM message posted on their webby). Thanks to JJ who brought this issue up and thanks to Cecily for clarifications.
~xaxa
@cecily: Thank u for your clarification.. I'm glad there are some 'perfects' that also like Joongbo couple. If you didn't say about it, maybe we won't know about it. You are right that we can't just generalize everyone in one community to be the same..
Actually, I feel thankful for many vids and info about HJ that I get from perfects, coz this fanclub always give the most clear fancam of what HJ done or HJ's activities, and smtm I also can use it to spazzing, hehe^^
Btw, I'm really glad that many of HJ HB conversations or stuffs in WGM directly or indirectly becomes true now.. like when she said BYJ name is lettuce sonata, now he is under KE or BYJ management. when he said abt Asian games, now he is singing for the opening ceremony in Asian Games, and many more that I can't mention one by one~
@Anon who asked about whether HB and her company made HJ stayed on WGM ~ To be honest, none of us have that answer because none of us were involved in that process. However, I just want to point out that HB doesn't even have a company that manage her. Even though, STAY produces a lot of her music, she's more like an independent celeb who manage her own things. So right there is something fishy about that site's claim.
And if somehow a PERFECT got the real info on that, I don't really see how it would benefit their beloved HJ to release that info to the public b/c it reflect rather badly on him, don't you think? Sure it shows that he's a nice guy who can't say no to a woman, but it also shows that he is a liar because if he really hates staying on that badly then how can he say things like " I feel like god sent you to me"? Especially when HJ kept on emphasized that the WGM HJ is the real HJ. No matter how they argue it, they can't get over the fact that they will have to call their beloved idol a "liar" to defend him.
wave to snow, we have the same thinking :) I just post similar thing in soompi. joongboers do think alike he he
I love all the joongboers either from this site or soompi. we are so mature and solve the prolems in very mature way and peaceful way. I am glad to be one of us. Seems like we do have lots of visitors from other fan groups and joongbo do exist that is why seems like we are a threat to their fandom :)
piggy2
thanks for the clarifications and mature discussions, Cecily and JJ.
and those are good points about the disputed Perfect WGM post, Ssangchu Heaven. some things don't match up, especially regarding HJ's sincerity and honesty, but now i'll remember not to blame all of Perfect.
I love you all Joongboers! Were all here to support our lovely couple!
@fudge and snow: I don't know if it's fate or what, but it seems like the universe is conspiring to let them
cross paths or at least have connections from WGM. Apart from the Asian games, Buin wished BOF would be a big hit and we all know it was one. If either of them participate in London games, I'd at loss for words. Too much of a coincidence! Segyero!
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